Well that makes sense then. Thanks.
Las Malvinas son Argentinas
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Brooklyn Eagle Article: WT Tunnels - Mysterious, Lingering Remnants Ministerial Heights Presence
by AndersonsInfo inhttp://www.brooklyneagle.com/articles/watchtower-tunnels-mysterious-lingering-remnants-ministerial-heights-presence-2013-10-16.
very interesting article.
how much do you think the wt has to pay the city for using their own four tunnels?.
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Brooklyn Eagle Article: WT Tunnels - Mysterious, Lingering Remnants Ministerial Heights Presence
by AndersonsInfo inhttp://www.brooklyneagle.com/articles/watchtower-tunnels-mysterious-lingering-remnants-ministerial-heights-presence-2013-10-16.
very interesting article.
how much do you think the wt has to pay the city for using their own four tunnels?.
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I can't see the use in constructing those tunnels in the first place. They brag about all these amenities and build uneccessary things much like a balding and overweight man in his 50's with a small [.....] would buy a Corvette and rev it up to show off to the high school girls as the bell rings. What, is Brooklyn like Reykjavík in winter? Bethelites can't be trusted to cross the street?
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Did Cedars manipulate Lee into having a thread closed?
by cedars ini will happily answer this question if there can be some guarantees this thread won't be deleted..
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fizzywiglet: He's been at this 'take exxagerated offense, offend everyone else in the process by his resulting behaviour, then offer a fake apology to save face' game for the relatively short time that he's been here. When he first had the idea to operate a JW survey site, he was quite open about the costs that he was fronting and that he would be more than willing to accept donations to help fund what eventually would become his own website. Lady Lee of all people shut him down, locked his threads and referred the issue to Simon. Cedars couldn't wait and kept on opening threads about it, sheepishly droning on about how he was in 'negotiations' with site management for soliciting donations, and all this was going to cost money (hint hint, wink wink) and he had to fund it himself even though it had been his idea from the beginning. So LL just about had it with him and called him out on it in forum for continuing to solicit in violation of forum rules. Cedars then goes into attack mode against LL, telling her that she's a poor mod, how she's unfairly attacking him, and even hints that she might be a man. It goes back and forth until Cedars found that he had virtually no friends in going after LL like that and thus started what was his unique way of apologising. With that I mean he offers an apology and then immediately qualifies it by:
1. implying that he really doesn't owe anyone an apology, but will do so anyway
2. criticising the person he is apologising to for fighting him in the first place, claimed insults, or 'lapses of judgment'
3. making it clear that he too was offended and/or wronged and that he should be apologised to
Here's an actual cut-and-paste of what he said to LL:
I wholly and categorically apologize for trespassing item 6 of the Posting Guidelines by providing a PayPal address by which those who had expressed an interest in helping to fund my survey could do so. This was an extremely ill-advised action on my part. I have already apologized to Lady Lee and Simon for this, and will continue to apologize to anybody who feels personally affronted by my conduct in this matter. I also apologize for any similarly-inadvertent trespassing of item 11. This is a matter of sincere regret on my part.
I regret the comments that I made on this post about Lady Lee's work as a moderator. Despite any momentary lapse in her judgment regarding the scamming issue in not running her concerns past me first, she gives of her time voluntarily and makes a notable contribution towards making this forum a safer place for all concerned. Whilst some of her comments that were made were unfortunate and a cause of offence to me personally, I cannot excuse the way I reacted, and I also apologize for this whole-heartedly, and extend the hand of friendship to Lady Lee.
So he starts this thread with the stated aim of having Simon either ban him, lock the thread, or remove posts. He then logs the entire conversation so that he can whine to his little group of sycophants about how he stood up to the big bad Simon and how the 'house' always wins. Then when Simon doesn't give him what he wants, he goes on and on trying to get the last word in. I would normally just let this one sit as it is, but if the past is any indication, he'll be back and we'll see these obnoxious routines again. If Cedars didn't want people to talk about him, then the last thing he should have done was open up a thread about himself.
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JW apologist Emeth dismisses teachings of Russell as irrelevant, uninspired and even funny.. Maybe in the future jw's will say the same about todays Governing Body?
by The Quiet One inemeth said: "russell never claimed to be a inspired prophet or without any failures or mistakes.
he was just a human as much as i and you are.
he is just a person who started a process of digging and searching for bible truths.
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Las Malvinas son Argentinas
'Hermano Russell' was always some sort of mythical figure to us. That stern Puritan face and stout Santa Claus beard made him look like he was from a long ago and proud era. With that said, there was like this unwritten and unspoken word that we did not examine his works, and those who would even be so brave as to ask for one of his publications at the literature counter would be made to feel as if it were a stupid question. I always wondered why. I found the answer as I moved into non-WT media to find out more about this religion I belonged to. As a result, I found that JWs have a very weak religious foundation. Russell built his house upon predictions which turned out to be false, and everyone who came after him has only attempted to cover it up. No one has ever attempted to right the ship. Like a building long ago condemned, they keep on patching it up just enough to keep the doors open and the money flowing in.
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Did Cedars manipulate Lee into having a thread closed?
by cedars ini will happily answer this question if there can be some guarantees this thread won't be deleted..
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Las Malvinas son Argentinas
Yep, it's still up.
Also found this:
http://aawa.co/blog/aawa-the-next-six-months/#more-1722
Go to the subheading under 'Reorganisation', and you'll find this:
AAWA recently reorganized its corporate structure. By law, we must have identifiable corporate officers, and we do.
Looks like AAWA finally realised that they must have identifiable corporate officers (not aliases), which was what me and several other posters had earlier pointed out. See what a value JWN feedback can be? Come and drink life's water-free.
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Goodbye JWD/JWN (my last post)
by slimboyfat inafter some considerable thought i have decided that i will no longer post on this forum because i want to return to jehovah.
thank you for all the kindness and many interesting discussions over the years.
i wish you all well in the future and the decisions you make.
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I can certainly understand his point of view and the reasons why he took the path that he did if it came down to a choice between his wife and family or the abyss of DFing. If this were the case then his wife really has someone who loves her dearly and would do anything for her. Whether the price of this love is worth going back to the JWs is only a question that SBF can answer, and he seems to have answered it. In a strange way, I honour that decision completely, and even though it would not be the path I would take, I cannot condemn him for making this choice. He is an adult man, free to make his own decisions and face the consequences of whatever comes next for him and his family. To condemn him for this would make us just as bad as the JWs with their 'us or them' mantra. All we can do is welcome him back if he does come back without being judgmental or launching a bunch of "I told you so" lines. On a personal note, I just hope he finds whatever he is seeking and that it brings him peace in his life.
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What are you NOT allowed to say as a Jehovahs Witness?
by The Quiet One in"one of the bible study was listening and singing the song by jason mraz titled lucky with the chorus going like this;.
quote.
'i'm lucky i'm in love with my best friend.. lucky to have been where i have been.. lucky to be coming home again.. lucky we're in love in every way.. lucky to have stayed where we have stayed.. lucky to be coming home someday..'.
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Salud! (or Bless You!)
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Goodbye JWD/JWN (my last post)
by slimboyfat inafter some considerable thought i have decided that i will no longer post on this forum because i want to return to jehovah.
thank you for all the kindness and many interesting discussions over the years.
i wish you all well in the future and the decisions you make.
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Las Malvinas son Argentinas
He did say that he still goes to Assemblies, Memorials and some meetings, only that he didn't go door to door.
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Goodbye JWD/JWN (my last post)
by slimboyfat inafter some considerable thought i have decided that i will no longer post on this forum because i want to return to jehovah.
thank you for all the kindness and many interesting discussions over the years.
i wish you all well in the future and the decisions you make.
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Las Malvinas son Argentinas
Scotland must indeed be burning.
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Did Cedars manipulate Lee into having a thread closed?
by cedars ini will happily answer this question if there can be some guarantees this thread won't be deleted..
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Cedars - My point was similar to the one slimboyfat made. Why are you bringing us into all this now? I didn't comment on any of your recent meltdown threads. We had words in the past and I was critical of you and AAWA, but then, so were many others. You really exhibit the signs of having bi-polar disorder. You've admitted in the past that you suffered from depression, so this might be something you should look into. As for me, I have moved on. I didn't deny that I made any disparaging remarks about you, I was only wondering why I was being mentioned now since your quarrel is clearly with Simon. This is a disturbing pattern with you where you claim others are trying to attack you when in reality, all sbf and I said was why are you mentioning us now? Do you really wish to rehash this out now? Why now, since you are so done with JWN and are happy being away from the 'peanut gallery'? Something is amiss in your mental and emotional makeup and it's being painfully dragged out here for everyone to see. What's going on?